The Raven Knocks
True Crime/Missing Persons/Cold Cases- I decided to begin a podcast regarding true crime because I feel like some of the victim's story never gets told due to it being to graphic or not admissible in court. I also think that Justice is lost in some of these cases and it's not right. I hope I can be a voice for the ones who lost theirs and perhaps make this world a slightly better place, and have you thinking more cautiously.
The Raven Knocks
Do you know who the guy next to you? There are 4 murderers out there FREE among us
How could a justice system allow such a heinous crime to go unpunished? Join us, Amy Prince and Jamie, as we confront the chilling and tragic story of Junko Furuta, a young Japanese girl whose promising life was extinguished by unspeakable brutality. Through a heart-wrenching conversation, we expose the flaws within the justice system that failed to adequately penalize the perpetrators, leaving us to question the very nature of justice in the face of such cruelty.
As we recount Junko’s horrific abduction, torture, and murder, we shine a light on the societal issues that allowed these atrocities to occur. With each shocking detail revealed, the depths of human cruelty become apparent, challenging our trust in the systems meant to protect us. We explore how law enforcement and societal corruption can lead to a devastating lack of accountability, with a particular focus on the minimal repercussions faced by Hiroshi Miyano and his accomplices.
Our discussion doesn't stop at Junko's case; it extends to a broader call for systemic change. By amplifying victims' voices and advocating for a reevaluation of justice, we urge for a world where such tragedies are prevented, and true justice is achieved. We express immense gratitude to our listeners for their continuous support and preview what's next for the Raven Knocks, encouraging everyone to stay engaged and vigilant against the ongoing threats within our communities. Listener discretion is advised, as the content is graphic and deeply unsettling.
Coming up on the Raven Knot. How far can one go with torture? Do you think you've heard it all? What does justice really mean to you? This is a story of one you've probably never heard before and it will chill you to your bones. This is a story of Junko Fertuda. This is a story of Junko Fertuda.
Speaker 1:Hey guys, welcome to my channel. I'm your host, amy Prince, and this is the Raven's Knock. If you like what you see in here, please like, subscribe and donate to this channel. It really helps me and I cannot continue without your support. We are on all platforms so you can listen to wherever you get your podcasts. For those that have already subscribed and supported me, I really appreciate that. A shout out to all my peeps across the pond we love other countries and, of course, the US has our fair share of sickos.
Speaker 1:Please note that the content of this recording may contain graphic material, including torture, and explicit language may be used. The opinions are of my own and may be offensive to some listeners. They are my opinions, everyone has them, and if you do not agree, then ignore them like an adult and move on. Listener, discretion is strongly advised. So today I have a story that you all I can almost guarantee you all have never heard about. And I also have a special guest with me. Again, it's my favorite. Her name is Jamie. She's also my best friend. I'll let her introduce herself. Hey guys, it's jamie. I'm the old bff and business partner. So amy and I partnered up with uh, our company called southern sass productions, and I myself have my own channel. It's called southeastern soul tribe. I do astrology and tarot readings there.
Speaker 1:I'm excited about this podcast and I hope you guys are just as excited. So what juicy story is it today, amy? Well, today is a story that's coming from Japan. So you all will probably have to bear with me and probably laugh a little bit, because I'm just a redneck from Tennessee, so I'm going to have probably a few. Well, I know I'm going to have some problems trying to pronounce some of these names and places, but the story is, I thought I heard, like the most torturous story I think I've ever heard, until I saw this one. This is unbelievable and it made my blood boil.
Speaker 1:When it comes to the justice part of this, I'm sure I will feel the same way if you do so. I also got feedback from some of my listeners that stated, they mostly listen anyway, as they do other things. So this podcast is going to have the picture of the victim. Later on you're going to see pictures of the defendants in this case, and that's probably how it's going to be from here on out. However, if I come across a story that has decent crime scene, an amount or whatever, I will definitely post it and in doing so, I will let you know ahead of time, before that video starts. Hey, this may be a video that you want to see, as well as listen to or go to the Facebook page and also look at the photos. You know if I've gotten any, so that way you're not going to miss out. But I mean again, I enjoy looking at photographs as much as you guys do. It really does give you a visual of what's going on, but unfortunately copyright and then you know they just don't let go of some of that stuff. But, like on the Joel Guy case, if you go back and look at that episode, I hit the jackpot with that one. I've got so much out of that episode and everybody loved it. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people expected that for every episode, but I just I don't have my magic wand that I could just ding and get what I want. But man, if I did, can you imagine? Okay, all right, enough of that, let's go on.
Speaker 1:Junko Furuta was born on January 18, 1971 in Masato, where she lived with her parents and her two brothers. She was a senior at Yasuo Manemi High School and she also worked at a factory to save money for a graduation trip. Junko already had future plans. She already had a new job lined up as soon as she graduated at an electronics store. Junko was well liked by everyone. She had a great relationship with her teachers. She had received high grades, had lots of friends and she dreamed of singing on the show Idol. So apparently they must have an idol in Japan too. That's cool. She didn't smoke, she didn't drink, she didn't do drugs. Our family was very proud of who she was becoming, but that would change, and it was not her doing.
Speaker 1:At her high school, junko had few classes with a boy named Mayano Hiroshi. He was also known as a bully and he would brag that he had connections to the Japanese mafia. They apparently have a mafia over there too. Well, interesting. He seemed to have a crush on Junko and he got the nerve to ask her out. She politely declined, stating that she wasn't interested in dating. She was interested in her studies. Hiroshi was furious. Not only was he embarrassed, but no one ever told him no, especially after everyone known that. You know he had links with the mafia. Apparently he was a badass. So he was how old? He was? In high school. Okay, grandiose. Yeah. He stood on this for a while and he finally came up with a plan.
Speaker 1:Aroshi enlisted the help of his best friend named senji monado. The plan was the usual one would attempt to attack a girl and the other one would come up to her rescue. He would gain her trust and then they would go rape them. What are you saying? So this is the usual something they've been doing already. Yeah, oh yeah. So they've already had a plan, if this tells you anything. So they've already had a plan.
Speaker 1:So this time, monado was going to push junko off of her bike as she was riding home, and hiroshi was going to come save her. She agreed to allow hiroshi to walk her home, as he had just saved her from the boy who tried to attack her and she wasn't sure if she you know if he was stalking her or not. So when the guy came and pushed her off her bike, here comes hiroshi, you know, oh, oh, let me just walk you home. You know, that way I can make you, you know, make sure that you get home safe. And of course she's like oh, yes, you know, because she don't know if this where this guy came from to start with, you know, so I get that.
Speaker 1:On the walk, though, hiroshi talked Junkka into taking a quick detour. He needed to go by a place that was close and it would only take a minute and he would finish walking her back home. But he led her into an old, abandoned warehouse. Once inside, his true motives came to light. He threatened to kill her if she didn't obey every command he gave her. While there, the first rape would occur. He would then take her to a nearby hotel, where he would rape her over and over, like this starts immediately Wow, in a warehouse, and then he goes to a hotel. Now, while at the hotel, he calls up his buddies and starts bragging about the trophy that he had in his room.
Speaker 1:So how did they get in this hotel at that age? I don't know. Don't that make you wonder if somebody else had to be involved? Or was it that era you could just rent hotels. I don't know how it is in Japan. I do know that you're going to be surprised at some of the things that you discover as we go along, and I do know that Hiroshi was 18 years old at this time, so that might have something to do with that. So I know I'm not familiar with the laws like here. I know you got to have a driver's license, I don't know. Do you know you? Do you have to be 18 or 21 to rent a hotel here? Do you know? I think you have to be 18. Some hotels even have restrictions, but I'm not sure. So I'm not sure about that right now. Trip advisor says the age restrictions on pre-booked accommodations in tokyo require 18 as a minimum. Under 20 you're still considered a minor.
Speaker 1:So he calls his you know his buddies and says hey, you know, I got this in my room and of course they wanted a piece of her too, so they decided to take. He decided to take her to a wooded area to meet his buddies. There were four boys in total and those four boys they were running all over town and they were gang raping women and no one ever turned them in because their connection to this mafia. So everybody thought that they were connected to this and this mafia must have been a big deal, because everybody was terrified of this mafia. They were not only scared of what would happen to them, but they were also scared of what would happen to their family.
Speaker 1:That afternoon, while in a park, kairoshi met up with his other buddies. They told her about their ties with the mafia. They already knew her address thanks to her backpack, and if she tried to escape they would not only murder her but her entire family. They then decided to take her back to one of the boys' home. That was the home of Shinji Minato. Now Minato's parents were afraid of him because of the mafia. Once they got there, they introduced Junko to his parents as Minato's girlfriend.
Speaker 1:On November 27th, junko's family reported her missing. Arushi made her call them and tell them that she was fine, she had just ran away, and to stop looking for her. Of course, you know they didn't believe that that was totally out of character for her. You know they didn't believe that that was totally out of character. Right now, monado's parents stated it wasn't long before they realized that junco was a hostage and had been kidnapped, that you know she was not their son's girlfriend, but they had been too afraid to call for help that their son ruled the household and he done whatever he pleased. Wow, so you've got parents here, and they also have a younger son. However, I could not find out how old that son was, but apparently this guy ruled the roost, I reckon because of this mafia, and so so.
Speaker 1:But they couldn't like when they went to get gas or went to the grocery store, they couldn't have called the tip in, remained anonymous. I mean, you can remain anonymous. You know there's several ways that you can, you know, report somebody without reporting somebody. Know what I'm saying. Yeah, and as a mother, I really have issues with this. Yeah, I love my son I've got two, I really do. But I'll be damned if my son comes in and does tries to do something like this. No way, absolutely not. I'll figure out a way, you know. Um, anyway, um little did junco know her nightmare was just getting started?
Speaker 1:And again, just when I thought I heard the most torturous crime against a woman, I read this and I cannot believe I've never heard this before like this should have been all over the news, like worldwide. So I don't, and maybe it's because it happened in the 90s and you know, I was still in high school in the 90s. Maybe it was on tv, I just didn't have cable because we were dirt poor. I don't know. Maybe it was I just didn't have cable because we were dirt poor, I don't know. Maybe it was, I just didn't hear it. Perhaps, yeah, unforgotten or forgotten stories, yeah, lost in time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the boys invite men over to rape her, and I'm not talking about two men, three men, ten men, thirty men. I'm talking hundreds of men came and went out of this house. A lot of reports state that it's a lot higher than over a hundred of men, but I'm not sure of that accuracy. Regardless, it was a lot. None of these men would report what they saw. So basically, she was a sex slave, yeah, and it kind of makes you wonder how many pedophiles does japan actually have? Because these kids knew at least 100, and she would be raped hundreds of times per day. Wow, well, if they were linked to the mafia?
Speaker 1:So I'm looking at some information online about the Japanese mafia and it says that that mafia has a huge hand in construction, real estate, currency exchange, labor dispatch, the IT and financial industries. According to the national police agency there. So they also supply much of the labor for japan's nuclear industry and have influence in the never-ending cleanup of the yukushima disaster, actually involved in the japanese mafia over there. So how much power is that over there? So how much power is that? So they know a lot of people. So I bet the police are probably intertwined with that somehow. Yep, wow, okay, but still, I mean, as a mom, can you imagine? Oh, I'm not questioning her ethic, or I'm questioning her ethics big time, but I can kind of relate, you can.
Speaker 1:You don't know who you can trust. Overpowered, tremendously overpowered, yeah, because you don't. I guess you just don't know who you can trust. I mean, if you did call the police, are you really calling the police? Yeah, are you really calling the mafia? Yeah, yeah, I know that when we took a mission trip or I didn't take it, but my church, when I actually went to church, I took a trip to Brazil and like, instead of hiding from criminals, everybody hid the police. Like the police were the bad dudes. Yeah, if they're corrupt. Yeah, it was bad, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:It was so jacked up but they shaved her pubic hair, they forced her to dance naked and they would force her to masturbate in front of them and other men. They made her sleep on the balcony naked when it was winter and they beat her severely. They would take her in and out of the freezer that's nothing. They shoved a metal rod into her vagina along with a bottle lit matches. They also shoved this into her anus. They forced alcohol down her throat, made her inhale paint thinner, smoked cigarettes, one after the other. I hope I mean I hope to God she was higher than heaven when it come to that paint thinner and the alcohol for some of this stuff. I hope so for her, because they burned her arms and legs with lighter fluid.
Speaker 1:This went on for days until they got other ideas. She was already tiny when they kidnapped her and by now it was December. She was already malnourished. They fed her cockroaches. They put fireworks in her anus and set them off. How did she live that long with that much torture? I'm not done, wow.
Speaker 1:They cut her nipples with a pair of pliers. They burned her with cigarettes. They laid her face down on the concrete and they took turns jumping on her face. They tied her to a ceiling and used her as a punching bag. They beat her with bamboo sticks, they broke her bones with golf clubs and they smashed her hands with weights. They put hot chicken skewers in her anus burning, and by then she was bleeding From there. They burned her eyelids With the lighter and they would take turns Putting sewing needles in her chest. But that's not all. I'm sorry, guys, I'm crying, I can't help it. Wow. They inserted a hot bulb inside her vagina and they shoved scissors up there too, causing heavy bleeding. Her eardrums were both busted, but they didn't state how they were busted, and at autopsy they would find that her brain had actually reduced in size.
Speaker 1:She ended up getting some really nasty infections where she was so weak and she could no longer walk. She eventually lost control of her bowels as well as her bladder. Her nasal cavity was full of blood. She begged them to die, but they refused her any mercy. As she did get a hold of a phone and as she was calling the police she was caught soon. Her body was giving off the odor that smelled rotten, so the boys lost interest in her.
Speaker 1:Then they decided to go and gang rape another girl who was 19 years old, but they let her go afterward. Of course, they threatened her. I don't know why they let her go and didn't swap her out for junco. I mean, I'm glad that they let her go, but you't swap her out for Junko. I mean, I'm glad that they let her go, but you would think that they would want a new victim to torture. So that kind of doesn't make sense to me. No, because they knew, obviously, that she was on her last dates.
Speaker 1:Hiroshi lost a game of the Mongong jong tiles, or however you say that he had bet money on it. So he was pissed that he lost the game and he decided to take it out on junco. So he poured lighter fluid on her body and he set her on fire. She lost consciousness. They continued to beat her. They placed small candles on her eyelids and lit them up, and then she woke up. They made her drink her own urine, they kicked her into a stereo and then she started having convulsions. She was bleeding bad and pus was oozing out of her wounds. But that didn't stop them. They put plastic bags on their hands to continue beating her, protecting themselves. Yeah, because I guess they didn't want that on their hands. They dropped an iron exercise ball you, you know, one of those like kettle balls on her stomach multiple times. This went on for about two hours until she finally died wow. The boys then wrapped her up in a blanket and they forced her into a travel bag if that tells you how small she was. They then put her body in a 55 gallon drum filled with concrete. At nightfall they loaded it and disposed of it in a cement truck in tokyo.
Speaker 1:While she was held captive, she had said that she had wished she had watched the last season of a show called Dragonfly. Hiroshi found that season and buried it, with her thinking that she wouldn't come back to haunt him if he did that. And I really hope to God that she was able to haunt him after all of that, like I hope she was able to haunt their asses for the rest of their lives. So there was a sense of fear that apparently he had that she would haunt him. Does he know that? Right there shows he absolutely knew everything he done was wrong, oh, absolutely Beyond wrong. Like how can anybody be that ruthless? I don't understand how you would. What kind of mind does it take to sit and think Like who would think let's go get some firecrackers and put it up somebody's ass and light them on fire. And what kind of joy do you get from that? Yeah, or a lightbulb, a hot lightbulb. And she never done anything to them, absolutely nothing. So how many victims? I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:On january 23rd 1983, hiroshi and ogura were charged with gang rape of a 19-year-old girl. In December, when they were questioning them, hiroshi thought that Ogura had confessed to Junko's murder, so he told them where they can find her body. The police were confused at first, because they were questioning him about a rape, not about a murder, so they were confused about what victim they were discussing to begin with. Yeah, so they like circled themselves back into oh, that serves them right, mm-hmm, yeah, because the one thought he had confessed and he was like well, I'll just go ahead and tell you where she's at. And they're like you know, know, they were confused, yeah, um, the rape had happened nine days before junka was abducted.
Speaker 1:Police went out to that truck, though, and found the drum, and they recovered her body on march 29th, and she was identified by her fingerprints, and they arrested all four of the boys 17 year old joe argora, 16 year old sen hiroshi, who had a rap sheet of shoplifting and damaging school property, and 17 year old yasushi wantonabe. The police arrested all of them and on april 11th Ogura was charged with another rape. Several other people who had participated in the torture and rape of Junko was also arrested, including Hetsu Nakamura and Kaochi Ihara. They were all charged with rape after their DNA was found inside of Junko. All four defendants were charged with kidnapping for the purpose of sexual assault, confinement, rape, assault, murder and abandonment of a corpse. The identities of the defendants were sealed because they were minors and over there you're a minor until you are 20, right? I read that. But a tabloid got wind of the story and published their names anyway as the crime, saying that the accused did not have the right to be kept from the public given the severity of the crime. So way to go to that tabloid. Yes, thank you. I totally agree.
Speaker 1:Hiroshi was originally sentenced to just 17 years in prison, but now he was re-sentenced to 20 years, which was the longest sentence typically given short of life, which was what the prosecution was wanting. To me, they all should have gotten death. I mean the death penalty I don't take lightly and should be reserved for the most heinous of crimes, but I cannot think of another crime that is any worse than this one. I mean, what in the world do you have to do to get a life sentence in japan? I mean, if dude does 100 of his conviction, he's still getting out at that at a prime age of 37, right? So all this I'm not done. So hireshi's parents worked out 350 000, which is 800 000 in us money, for his defense.
Speaker 1:His psychological exam showed that he had a learning disability, but that did not impair his brain function. He was just delayed in emotional development. How about no emotion? Yeah, um, the this guy was released in 2009. He changed his name to yokoyama. He bragged about having connections to the mafia. He was also involved in pyramid schemes. He was arrested in 2013 on bank fraud, but remained silent and ended up not being charged for this. Wow, oh wait.
Speaker 1:Ogura was sentenced to 5 to 10 years. He was also released in 2009. He changed his name to chemist kill. I have no idea. He worked in it until he also got arrested in 2004 for assaulting a kotoshi a kotoshi asano, a man he thought his girlfriend was with. He shoved him in the car, drove him to his mother's bar and assaulted him for four hours. He got four years for that, but he was still out in 2009.
Speaker 1:Monado was originally sentenced to five to six years in prison, but then he was re-sentenced to five to nine years. Now his brother and parents were not charged why not, I don't know. They knew this was going on. They never told they could have snuck and told someone I'm not sure the age of the brother but if he was old enough to call for help, I think he should be held accountable. Now, in 1998, monado was released.
Speaker 1:He moved back in with his parents, but in 2018, he was arrested for attempted murder after striking a 32 year old man in the shoulder with a metal baton and slashing his neck with a knife in the street during a dispute over a parking spot. Road rage yeah, now get this. Are you ready for this? In 2019, he was sentenced to one year and six months in prison, which was suspended, and he ended up getting probation for three years. Attempted murder over a parking spot, and he gets no time, only probation, even after having a prior record. Like. It seems like if you plan to kill anybody just so you're out there, your best bet is to move to japan, y'all. I'm just saying yeah, because they don't seem to have many consequences. Yasushi wannabe was sentenced. Originally sentenced to three-4 years, he was re -sentenced to 5-7 years. He appealed to the Supreme Court of Japan, but his appeal was denied in July 1992. He was released in 96 and he left his hometown to live with his mother.
Speaker 1:Now, when this case was first reported, everyone wanted a severe punishment, which would have been life or death. Totally understandable, absolutely. The prosecutor's office was criticizing for only seeking life for only one of the defendants, because they didn't seek life for the others, just for the one. But they were all, they were all, all of them Involved. He, all of them involved heavily, yes, yes, heavily involved. And we've learned, you know, from every study that we've looked at so far in history, shown in other studies, when it comes to killers, that they typically have prior things that escalate to the levels that they're at at the moment, where they get to, where they become so violent. And it's like, I mean, we put animals to death for attacking, even in their own environments, for biting somebody, but we give so many second chances for such heinous crimes and they walk among us. Mm-hmm, oh yeah, mm-hmm. So the court received numerous calls and letters and outrage over the sentences. The court received numerous calls and letters and outrage over the sentences.
Speaker 1:In 1998, another murder which happened. It involved a couple, and the main defendant, who was 19 years old, was sentenced to death and the 17 year old was sentenced to life. So they were outraged. Why did that one get life and the other one get death in this case? And but in jenko's case? They got such lot sentences? Here now a law professor said that the difference was that one case had two victims and the other one had one. But now I didn't tell you all this.
Speaker 1:She was tortured, not one day, Not a weekend, not even a month. She was tortured for 43 days. She endured 43 days of pure straight hell, night and day, with no mercy given. 43 days of not knowing what's going to happen to you. What fucked up idea someone had in their mind of what they were going to do to you that day. Another day wondering if you would ever see your parents again, if you would ever taste the rain, if you would ever see the sunshine, experience love, your engagement, your daddy walking you down the aisle, hearing your baby's heartbeat, holding your firstborn, watching them grow. Another day to think if this is the day you were going to die, or wishing that this was the day you were going to die. You know, have you ever thought about putting yourself in the victim's shoes, imagining what it would be like to go through that pain and to wonder what's going through somebody's mind when they know that they're going to die? You know, the impact in the thoughts of pure morality or mortality for us is so deep, and for her to have to question living every single day, for us just to think about it for a split second, is deep and then we can step out of it.
Speaker 1:But for someone like her, enduring that for so many days in a row, she had to have some way to disassociate. She had to in order to live that long. She was a fighter. She had to be a fighter. I think she wanted to live, but there had to come a fighter. I think she wanted to live, but there had to come a day during that time period that she prayed to die.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, I mean we wake up every morning. I mean you don't wake up thinking like that. I mean you wake up and you know you're bitching about. I got to go to work today. I got bills, I got to pay, I got a freaking flat tire. I'm stuck in traffic. She would have dreamed for those problems. Yeah, somebody's not force-feeding me cockroaches. Yeah, I'm not hanging from a ceiling, I'm not being raped. I mean, come on people, this shit's going on, and this shit's going on in your fucking backyard. I mean it is. I want you to be aware that these bastards are free somewhere in this world. They might be right next door to you. They might be dating your daughter, your sister, your mother.
Speaker 1:This is another case where a victim was denied justice. I don't care if it's in japan, I don't care if it's in england, I don't care if it's in the us. This is a person who deserves to be heard. Yes, and these people are living among us free and they shouldn't be, and that's why I do this. I want people to know this is not right. You shouldn't be walking among us at all, ever again. We got to change this somehow. I mean, granted, it's in Japan, but we've got to change this. And when I came across this story, it's in Japan, but we, we've just we, we've got to change this.
Speaker 1:And when I, when I came across this story, it's like I was telling Jamie earlier I was like you know, I don't know if the people want to like, really hear of these stories that are. I mean, they're so horrific, they're so torturous. But you know, and it's like she said, you know you've got to do what speaks to your heart. And they speak to my heart because it's all about the victims. To me, it's all about getting justice, and even though they didn't get justice in the court, you know I don't want their story to not be heard. I want these guys' names out there. I want you to know that the guy sitting next to you, the guy that just hit you up on Tinder, may not be the guy that you think they are.
Speaker 1:It's called true crime because it's true. It's not a fake story, it's not fake news. It's true, it's not a fake story, it's not fake news, it's true crime. And a lot of people don't get to hear all of it because either it was inadmissible in court or it was too bad for tv. Well, you know what? It's what happened. Okay, it is what happened, and if she were able to survive that she would want to tell the story, she would want them to know what they did to her.
Speaker 1:You know, and here's the thing I think our justice systems all across the world get so caught up in the red tape and the semantics of the everyday going to court and back and forth and protecting the perpetrator so that they get a fair trial, that we lose sight of the truth of the crime and we it almost becomes forgettable and it should never, ever be forgotten our victim. There was nothing fair about the victim. I'm telling you, like on the um, when we're talking about lethal injection, they're talking about what's humane and what's not. Well, let's back the truck up a second. Okay, these guys, for instance, just for instance, this one, or the, or the Shannon Christian murders, whatever, any murder, I don't care what it is you tell me.
Speaker 1:You give me a murder that is humane, where the victim was killed against their will. That was humane, okay. If they did not get to die in a humane way, then why in the fuck should we care if the murderer has to be killed in a humane way? That's what I'd like and that's the thing, because our victim didn't choose to die. He did not, they did not choose to die. It's like when you chose to kill this person, you took their rights away. Therefore, you took your own rights away.
Speaker 1:In my opinion, when there is so much evidence pointing to and proving that you've done it, that you've done it. Yeah, you can beg plead, swear you didn't back up your statements or whatever, but you need to die. Yeah, you got one fair trial. You got one fair trial. Unless you can prove that your you know counsel was ineffective, you get one fair trial. Okay, after that, good luck, buddy.
Speaker 1:You need to be executed or sent away, whatever, and, like I said previously, I think that they should be a law where you know if you're a victim of a crime like I'm talking about murder here. If somebody murders somebody that you love, I think there should be a minimum penalty across the state and then it should be up to the family of that victim. Whatever they want to do to you, I don't care how inhumane, I don't care. If they want to pluck out your fingernails, so be it, because you had no mercy for my loved one that got killed, so why should I have any mercy on you? You see what I'm saying when it comes to a tooth for a tooth, you kill one of mine. Well, let me kill one of you, you know. Let me torture you the way you tortured mine.
Speaker 1:I think stuff would start to change I really do, especially when there's no remorse shown by the perpetrator. Right, there's no. So often you see these people that commit these heinous crimes. They are not proven to be insane or whatever. I mean, clearly, there's something wrong with someone who can do that, to start with, right. But they, they're a danger to society. They show zero remorse, right, and they're still breathing to talk about it, to tell their part of the story. We give them chance after chance after chance to have a voice, and we pay for their meals, we pay for their housing for so many years.
Speaker 1:It's like, if you're sentenced to death, fine, you have one appeal that should happen in I don't know five years, which is way too long for me. After that, you're shit out of luck, buddy, I think you should. I don't even think you. To me, lethal injection is way too humane. Fire and squad hang in. Go back to the day, man. You know it's cheaper, it's's effective, it's a done deal.
Speaker 1:You know people would start rethinking their choices. I mean, seriously, I know that it sounds harsh, but I'm talking about the people that has done really heinous crimes. You know, yeah, I'm not talking about the people that somebody died on accident because of. I don't know how can people die of an actual accident? Hmm, that's a good one, I mean, unless it's, I don't know. I don't even want to get into that part. But these people that clearly have been proven and they've done these heinous torturous murders On purpose, where they've had priors that have built up to this level, right, just because, and they got a slap on the wrist for this, slap on the wrist for that, and it escalates, escalates, escalates, and then they're still sitting there waiting on death row.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, why does that take so long? I don't know. It's on our dime and I don't understand that. I mean, we've got how many lawyers do we have in this country? How many courts do we have in this country? I mean, you cannot tell me that it's going to take 20 years, 30 years to go through the legal process. That's some. I'm sorry, I just don't believe that. Believe there's no call for it. No, no call for it. It used to not be that way. I mean, they'd hang you quick, yeah, and it was a done deal. It was a done deal.
Speaker 1:I kind of wish that I could, you know, and that may be something that we could do is go back in the day and figure out like I suck at math I really do, but somebody that's good on statistics, if I can say that, right, statistics yes, yeah, that word yeah and and go back from like a population and the crime rate and you know, and do that then versus now and kind of see where it's at. You know, it's a good study. I think we could. Anyway, I really don't like people's podcasts that when they ramble and they go on a rant, but yet I went on a probably 20 minute rant. So I'm sorry about that, guys, but this story really, really bothered me, uh, and it obviously made me cry. Um, and it's, it's.
Speaker 1:I have an issue like I try to put myself. I don't try, it just automatically happens for me when I'm reading something, it's like I automatically go where that victim is, um, and it's like I can feel where they're at, and that's why I choose what I read very cautiously when it comes to news and kids and stuff. You know, but I never heard of this story and it's like this story is. I can't believe I've never heard of it. I mean, this girl went through way too much for nobody to not know Exactly, for nobody to not know Exactly, and that's the point Telling the story of the people who no longer have the voice.
Speaker 1:That's what can be given back to a community, as heinous as it is, as gruesome as the details are. To be able to be the voice for someone who didn't get an opportunity to have one or who didn't have a platform to do so, is what this platform's for. And I'm telling you, she had everything going for her. I mean, she got good grades, she was loving it and I pulled her up. I mean she's a beautiful girl. I saw that. Yeah, she's very you know, and our parents were proud of her. I mean, she already had a job, for after she got out of school, she wasn't interested in dating, she was interested in her studies. I mean, what parent wouldn't be proud of that? Her life was lined up, yeah, and she was going to do big things, yes, and then these people got out of the school Awful, what a story, I know.
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